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Technical wire tie ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 383deuce, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. When using the plastic wire ties what do you guys use to snip the ends off with? So it does not leave a sharp edge that cuts the crap out of your hand when you have to go back under the dash to do some work.
     
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  2. mike in tucson
    Joined: Aug 11, 2005
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    use a regular pair of wire cutters.....trick is to slide the cutters down the tail of the tie so the cutters cut flush
    against the tie body..... See Snap On E709BCG cutter for an example of a flush cut design.
     
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  3. 4wd1936
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    Electricians have taught me to twist them off with pliers with the threat of physical violence if I don't.
     
  4. Joe H
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    Take a match and heat the end, then tap it with a flat tool, they smooth right up and don't cut you. A razor knife cuts them even with no sharp edges.
     
  5. bangngears
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    Waxed string works better, can not cut and looks better also. If its good enough for f15 fighters, its good enough for a hot rod
     
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  6. deucemac
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    Panduit tie wrap gun. Perfect cut at the lock with no jagged edge to get snagged on. Always some available on EBay. I used them forever on aircraft and convinced lots of other car guys to try mine. They all liked it.
     
  7. Mike, Nice tool and looks like it sure would do what I am after....But 63.00 is a little pricy to me. Anyone make this took at a fair price for a home builder?
     
  8. squirrel
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    flush cut side cutters, like mentioned. There are lots of different styles/prices available. The electronics mentor on our robotic team has one of those tighten/cut tools for cutting them off.

    My favorite trick on a traditional car is to not use plastic wire ties, at all.
     
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  9. Mike VV
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    383 -

    Might be a little high in cost...but after about the 3rd or 4th tie cut...you'll say..."money well spent"..!
    The tie "load" (or tightness) is adjustable, clean easy cut, very professional looking when done. We use them at work all the time (Aerospace).

    Mike
     
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  10. Gearhead Graphics
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    I didn't want to plunk the good money for a fancy cutter. I found a cheaper style on ebay, it pulls tight and cuts, but doesn't do either very well. I think the more spendy one is a good investment. Otherwise side cutters all the way down works well enough for me
     
  11. Here's the best you will find: 90708 at Harbor freight. It's small and gets rid of the evil sharp edges.
     
  12. wfo! you are the man!!!!! this is what I was looking for. I am sure it will do the job for me and I like the price. Thank's
     
  13. J. A. Miller
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    Geez, I thought cuts were traditional. Lol
     
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  14. H380
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    Pay no more than $5. The best cheap ones are Hakko made in Italy. Only cut TyWraps with them and they will last the rest of your life. The trick is to pull on the tail with one hand. Then push on the Wrap head with the jaws. Then snip the tail under tension. That way the tail is just below the top of the head.

    Look at Hobby and Electronic shops. They carry them too.

    https://www.amazon.com/Hakko-CHP-17...07657327&sr=8-2&keywords=flush+cutting+pliers
     
  15. I still use bread sack ties.

    OK that is an out and out lie, but I have been wanting to say that for a long time. LOL

    I guess I am as backward as the day is long but if I can get at the loom I use electrical tape. Sorry fellas '60s kid here. If I have to use a wire tie I cut them flush like has been mentioned.
     
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  16. I use one of these:

    https://www.be-electronics.com/product_p/f10625.htm

    It tightens and cuts the tail off flush all in one motion. I like it alot! There are more expensive versions out there, but this one has worked well for me for many years. Once you've used one, trust me, you won't go back.
     
  17. squirrel
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    I've used one of the fancy tools, and I still haven't bought one.
     
  18. I may have one of those tools around the shop. I usually use diagonal cutters and turn the jagged edge where I won't make contact with it. This is from stock car 101.
     
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  19. DDDenny
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    Don't tell the wife but I use her toenail clipper.
    Cuts closer and works better than any sidecutters you can find.

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  20. Joliet Jake
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  21. Bandit Billy
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    I snip them off with side cutters and then run the soldering iron over them to round off the edges completely. Or if I'm in a hurry I heat up a flat blade with a propane torch and do the same thing. Stinks a bit but it works nice.
     
  22. trailerpark
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    Twist them off.
     
  23. hrm2k
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  25. I do got some advice for anyone who is crazy enough to listen. Do not use fence pliers to pull cheap ties tight. :eek:

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  26. DDDenny
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    Yeh, I laughed too when my mom showed me what "old people" have to use when their toenails get a 1/4" thick:eek:, now I'm 63 and not laughing.
     
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  27. okiedokie
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    X2
     
  28. rjones35
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    I cut them at an angle so there's a razor sharp point sticking out. Makes it more of a challenge working on stuff then. Don't want it too easy, then any yayhoo could work on my stuff.
     
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  29. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
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    CRAP, Benno!!! WTF did you wire the car with, Barbed???
    Klein is the right thing, wife Joey uses them for her under-dash wiring. She was using Snap-On sidecutters, then went into the hobby shop and grabbed our Klein flush-cutters. (tools for large Control Line scale model planes!)

    Much better, but have also used waxed string tied, (my Dad was an awning man, always waxed his thread for longevity: Bee's wax) Bangingears... Right on about that one!
     
  30. I've been using a small pair of end cutters for years. They do a good job and will cut flush, but you have to take a second and make sure you're holding them flush to the tie. They look something like this:
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