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Wire wheel won't come off!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Cerberus, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. hotroddon
    Joined: Sep 22, 2007
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    The nut isn't rounded off - none of that will do any good

    The nuts for the axle retainer are INSIDE the drum on any Stock 8" or 9" that I have ever seen, with a T Bolt on the back side (and his picture confirms that) so How do you get to them? Am I missing something?

    I think many are over thinking this and suggesting good ways to screw up that wheel. Take the advice of drilling out the nut starting small and working your way larger and the nut will fall apart when you get large enough. Easy peasy
     
  2. Exactly. Center punch the lug to gain your center, then drill. Start small, and step up the sizes. Once you've gotten about 1 or 2 drill sizes close to the the diameter of the lug stud, the head of the lug nut will seperate from the shank. Done.

    Some of the suggestions previously mentioned might work, but the chance of ruining the wheel are huge. That's what the OP is trying NOT to do.
     
  3. budd
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    what about drilling a hole in the backing plate so you could reach in with a stick welder and tack the stud to the axle flange?
     
  4. Cerberus
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    55 Dude. I owe you a beer! Went to Home D today and got a Dremel 4000. Attached a #426 reinforced Cut-off wheel. Cut through the mag type lug nut and wheel stud in 15 minutes. Pushed out the wheel stud. The knurled end was rounded off as you can see in the picture. Glad I waited for all the suggestions to be posted before going ape on it. The only collateral damage was done to the washer. Wire wheel did not get hurt. Thanks again everyone.:):D
     

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  5. Hnstray
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    Glad you got it off with no damage! Rounding the serations on the lug stud though causes me ask.....has this stud been replaced that you know of? Kind of unusual for that to happen, in my experience......wondering if the serrated shank is the correct size?


    Ray
     
  6. tommyd
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    Well, that should cover our course on lug nut removal! This one had a lot of good info too.
     
  7. iammarvin
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    55dude saves another one! Good job Dude!
     
  8. Mike51Merc
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    It's a good thing that shank wasn't threaded. That's what I was thinking.
     
  9. Cerberus
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    Ray- Your hunch is correct! The knurl diameter of the bad wheel stud is 0.55". The Mustang II 8" rear end requires a 0.618" knurl diameter. I went to Dormans website for the wheel stud specs. There is a part number on the head of the wheel studs. Someone installed the wrong wheel studs.

    Question: What is the best method to install new wheel studs myself? I do not have a press.
     
  10. hotroddon
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    Remove with a BFH. Install new ones using a nut with a spacer so that if the knurl needs to come a little past the flange it can. Don't use an impact wrench, do it slowly by hand so you don't stretch the studs.
     
  11. nmpontiac
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    If it gets desperate you might try finding one of the (Blair, RotBroach) hollow type "bits" that has the right (or close) ID, hold the nut with a wrench to get most of it cut off, then it might be easy to get ahold of the piloted part of the stud and turn the remains off.
     
  12. hotroddon
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    HA HA - read the Whole thread - He got it off already
     
  13. LOWCAB
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    I've put the stud through the hole and pulled it into place using the lug nut itself. Hey it worked for me on the side of the road.
     
  14. Kerrynzl
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    Drill a hole in the backing plate and try to MIG the stud to the axle [ you can pull the opposite drum to fgure out where ]
     
  15. junkyardjeff
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    I would destroy the backing plate or drum before destroying the wheel.
     
  16. Here we go again, "NO DON'T CHOP IT " nobody reads
    He got it off.

    Just pull the stud in with a spacer or washers and a lug nut. Easy peasy and can be done on the side of the road in the dark with 60 mph traffic at your back.
     
  17. johnboy13
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    Very cool. Thanks for reporting back on the fix. A lot of folks don't do that (including me at times).
     
  18. Cerberus
    Joined: May 24, 2010
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    I believe the H.A.M.B should be more than self-serving. Members should share the outcome of their posts for help (Q&A), with the forum. That's one of the reasons the H.A.M.B is a great sounding board.
     

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