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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by GTS225, Oct 26, 2023.

  1. class 'A'
    Joined: Nov 6, 2004
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    class 'A'
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    It's pretty impressive! I've done the same thing with the 357" sbc in my '59. Cheap ***urance after the build.
    I found an issue with the diesel oil I was using in my 3500 from the ****ysis and changed it up before major damage was caused.
    I've utilized to extend or shorten change intervals and the changes to SYN oil in some of my cars as well.
    Schaeffer Oil uses it as a cornerstone of their business.
    Average cost is $20. Pretty cheap in my book
     
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  2. deucemac
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    I was working in a Ford service department when the Motorcraft rep happened to stop by the back parts counter and a discussion began concerning oil filter filtration medium. He grabbed a filter cutter and we headed over to the lube rack. There were mad brands of oil filters in the trash bin, but all for Ford products. He cut at least a dozen random filters apart and the quality had a very wide range. Fram filters had low quality filter material and not that much of it. Of all the filters opened up, two had very good filter medium and lots of of it. Those were Wix/napa gold and Ford Motorcraft filters. He cut them open and let us judge for ourselves. Everybody agreed that Wix and Motorcraft had the best filter material. He offered no opinion and let us decide.
     
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  3. Fordors
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    An eye opening video, anyone that doesn’t like unions or government regulation by OSHA should watch this.
     
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  4. 2OLD2FAST
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    Since 1962 , put them on everything ,never a problem , thank you !

    No byp*** valve ?
     
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  5. 05snopro440
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    Byp*** valves in filters can fail. My dad had two recently, they were lower-end filters one after the other on the same engine. He caught it before the engine was ruined both times because it had low oil pressure warnings pop up immediately. Now he runs better quality filters on it.

    Fram filters can and have ruined engines. I'm glad that you've been lucky enough not to have an issue, but knowing the risk of Fram filters I won't even use their junk on my lawnmower. Personally knowing quite a bit about the failure of inferior products, failures are still a small percentage in inferior products, but if they're more likely than other brands it's wise to stay away.
     
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  6. Kerrynzl
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    Made by Purolator [a subsidiary of Mann-Hummel]

    Mobil 1 filters are made by Champion Laboratories
    @2OLD2FAST
    Champion Laboratories [a subsidiary of FRAM] also make AC Delco Amsoil Royal Purple
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    Before people take the word of a Youtube "expert" I would suggest get a lab to test them
    You can flow test them yourself with a remote filter block, then cut them open [if they're blocked/collapsed due to being full of ****, they are actually doing their job]

    One thing I wrote on post # 6 was I preferred Fram HP filters, which are their High Performance range [and not too much more expensive, when playing with expensive engines]

    ProtoTypeDesignFlauz contacted me about my comments.
    I replied and stated:

    He edited his re****al an hour later on post #7
    One thing I have learned over the years is "General Consensus does not mean it is correct" [that is the domain of social media influencers]
     
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  7. Notice I said "in general" since I did see your mention of the HP models. But why spend extra for that when you know the company puts out questionable products throughout the rest of their line? This first came up nearly 20 years ago online and many folks have done their own testing. Time and time again the Wix comes out as the brand you can trust.
     
  8. Slick111
    Joined: Oct 22, 2011
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    I still use my gramps toilet paper filter kit he got off the traveling tool sales truck that came to town every 4 of July;)
     
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  9. MCjim
    Joined: Jun 4, 2006
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    Never doubt a YouTube, or for that matter, a HAMB "expert".
    Has this subject not been a recurring nightmare here...?
     
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  10. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
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    Yes it has, but the OP just asked if Wix was sold. :)
     
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  11. 1971BB427
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    I stopped using Wix as the large 1 qt size I use on all my Chev V8's got pretty spendy. A friend told me about Fleetguard filters and their PN LF692 is slightly larger capacity, and rated highly. I buy them in cases of 6 and it comes out to $40 with free shipping. They're great filters at a very good price.
     
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  12. BJR
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    Cut a standard Fram and A standard Wix sold at any auto parts store, and you may want to re think your statement. Unless you are blind.
     
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  13. Kerrynzl
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    Time to fess up Mike! I have had a failure due to Fram quality issues.
    I was inspecting a filter and re-installed it back in the box

    The lid of the box ripped and the damn thing fell out and landed square on my big toe [I was wearing flip flops]
    Fram caused me personal injury :D:D:D
     
  14. Budget36
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    ^^^^. See, if you were in California, you’d have a lawsuit in the making;)
     
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  15. mad mikey
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    I use K&N on the the drag coupe and WIX sometimes, also my daily driver. The only way I would use FRAM on anything I own is if I was piss drunk or completely was not of sound mind. FRAM is pure ****, junk. Just my opinion, what the hell do I know anyway.:D
     
  16. JohnLewis
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    Never been a fan of fram, but seems a lot of people tend to compare their entry line to mid tier brands like wix. Really not a comparison, take one of wix relabeled base brand commercial filters (pro-tec) would be more comparable (personally I'd still go for wix manufactured). But it's like comparing a Mobil, Bosch, etc to a parts store house brand. Wix as a company runs a two tier line (wix & wix xp) Fram runs what 5 lines? Excluded racing, power sports, etc.
     
  17. deathrowdave
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    I have 2 ***mins Diesel engines . This engines have “ piston oilers “ , with very very small holes in them . ***mins will not warranty an engine that has ever used a Fram filter . The filter elements tear off in small small pieces blocking the piston oilers orifice , causing engine failure .
     
  18. Fleetgard makes very excellent filters. Fleetgard is owned by ***mins Engine Company. I also use Baldwin Filters on everything except our new Chevrolet Daily Drivers. They get AC Delco.
     
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  19. BamaMav
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    Kinda apples to turnips, but had bad luck with Baldwin fuel filters on my semi truck. They would collapse inside and stop fuel flow. Switched to Fleetgard and no more problems.
    Had a Fram oil filter explode on a 4 cyl Toyota. Couldn’t hold the pressure. Replaced it with a Motorcraft, never had any problems. One time occurrence? Possibly, but not worth taking a chance on a $2 cheaper filter. Was lucky I had just changed the oil and was in my driveway and not out on the road somewhere.
    Motorcraft got hard to find for a while, so I switched to what the local parts store carried, WIX. Haven’t had a bad one yet in 10 years.
     
  20. 2OLD2FAST
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    If the insides of the filter are doing the job they were designed for ( and in the overwhelming majority of instances , they are) I don't feel the need to play armchair engineer .
     
  21. 2OLD2FAST
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    Have no idea what engine you're talking about , SBC has a relief valve as part of the engine ***embly ?!
     
  22. 05snopro440
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    When they're sold as comparable options in the store, you bet we'll compare them.
     
  23. JohnLewis
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    With out knowing his dads vehicle and service maintenance. I saw it a lot in parts sales and I still see it. People want the cheapest parts and expect the highest quality. A new vehicle with a 7-10k or 20k mile service interval and people buy the most basic cheap oil and filter and wonder why there is issues later? most likely it wasn't designed for it or they went over and want to blame a cheaper filter for a issue that a higher end filter was already designed and recommended for.
     
  24. JohnLewis
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    Comparable and recommended are two different things. I wouldn't blame the manufacturer more over the poor cataloging and knowledge in parts stores and parts sales that everyone here complains about already.
     
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  25. wraymen
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    The Wix XP actually has higher (larger) micron filtering. It is designed for people that don’t change the oil frequently thus less likely to clog. Crazy that it costs more. I use the standard one in all my rides.
     
  26. Budget36
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    Is that true for all extended life filters?
     
  27. 05snopro440
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    None of the above in this case.
     
  28. 05snopro440
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    Well when you go to every store and they have the two options, is it really the store's fault?
     
  29. JohnLewis
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    Fair, im just going off my experience.
     
  30. JohnLewis
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    To be fair I've been to and worked a number of stores and there is more than two options. I've been into plenty of stores and between two-three house brands there are 2-3 at least name brand lines in a comparable number. Oreillys- Microgard, MG Select, Wix, Bosch Mobil, Delco, Etc. Autozone- STP, STP Extended, Delco, Etc. Napa- Multiple Lines in their brand from Basic, Gold and Platinum, Baldwin, Etc. Federated- House, Extended, Baldwin, even OEM. Of course I don't live in your demographic, but here filters and extended lines are plentiful and typically on the shelf.
     

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