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Worlds fastest Commer...?

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  1. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    Great project, nice workmanship. I'll be following the build, thank you for the photos and info.
     
  2. Rat Rod Roach
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    Toni,
    What's the plastic standing on end in the back ground in pic 4....
    a Swedish Cobra ???:D

    Roach
     
  3. Wow, this is awesome!
     
  4. Commer
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    Thanx.

    No, I'm not fabricator, just crazy and curious. Self learned, mostly by doing mistakes!
    My garage only have the basic tools and machines, wich means everything is done and fabricated at least 3 times...

    Yes, you're right. With those wheels the scrub radius is 82mm, but with a wheel with better ET it will come down to more acceptable 40mm or better.
    The chassis are a little bit too low in the picture, the wheels are going to hit the the fenders inside.

    The idea is to have one set of wheels for the looks (those on the pic´s, 235/75-15 and 265/70-15) and another set for "inspired" driving. 235/55-16 and 265/50-16 or something like that.

    Toni
     
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  5. Commer
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    It's my garage buddie's Cobra kit car.
    It's a Swedish kit made in Estonia...!:eek:
    Meaning a lot of parts and nothing fits!!!:confused:
     
  6. Commer
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    This is the "Knocker". Even with a sound file!

    http://www.commer.org.nz/Commer_Connections/Other.html

    Enjoy.

    Toni
     
  7. Cool project, we had Commer vans here from the 60's, generally used for bread deliveries and ice-cream vans. Always thought they'd look as a tubbed wheel-standing gasser. Will you run old school wheels & trim?

    Keep up the great work!
     
  8. We used to be able to go out back of the wreckers and do our own scrounging- found a lot of great stuff years ago. Now there's a counter with a gate and you can't go out back. Great to see someone using 2nd hand stuff and mixing it up.
     
  9. Commer
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    Yes, I know. I probably would need anti dive angles, but since it´s my first scratch build, it is complicated enough to get all the other angels right.
    As soon as you change or add something, it affects all the other angles:eek::eek::eek:

    But the next build...

    Thanks
    Toni
     
  10. Commer
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    Yupp, old school look inside and out. With some hidden "surprises".

    Thanks
    Toni
     
  11. awesome. ill be following this.
     
  12. mart3406
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    This is an absolutely amazing build! Please
    keep the updates and pics coming!

    Mart3406
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  13. scootermcrad
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    When you say inspired driving, do you mean like Burt Reynolds? :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZPalUHlxc

    or do you mean like Ken Block? :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7R_buZPSo

    Can't wait to see what this looks like with the body dropped down over everything. Will there be a chop to the cab?? (sorry if you answered that)
     
  14. Commer
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    Ha ha, yes, I will probably try to do the same.
    Only slightly faster...

    The cab will get a 3 1/4 inch chop.

    Thanks
    Toni
     
  15. Commer
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    Good news!

    The chassis past the first inspection with only 3 minor remarks. (One was a fogotten washer...!)
    Extremely strong chassis design, the inspector said.

    Yeah, with supersonic speeds I'm gonna need it!!! (...when I probably will loose control over it!)

    Toni
     
  16. Rat Rod Roach
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    Toni, That's awsom... do them inspectors have to find something wrong
    just to justify their job ?? Cause in order for him to find a washer missing, he must realy be looking hard. I still want to see a pic of you sitting on a milk crate going for a test drive.... :D

    Roach
     
  17. GaryB
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    that is good news .........now more updates
     
  18. Commer
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    Ha ha, well it was the height of the steering rack that caused a minor bumpsteer.
    With a laser pointer attached to the front wheel, pointing at a white board on a distance of 1.8 metre in front of the car, the deviation was 5 mm sideways, from the wheels highest and lowest position.
    By raising the rack one 1mm washer, the three joints comes in perfect alignment = no bump steer.

    The stupid thing was that I had the washers there in the beginning of the construction, but after several on and off's they kind of disappered :confused:.
    I always seems to get parts left when i assemble something the second time... sounds familiar???

    Now I only have to find the washer... and a milk crate!!! :D

    Toni
     
  19. 40WILLYSCRAZY
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    Your avatar kind of looks like a British Austin A 40 pickup.
     
  20. Commer
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    You are right, they share some parts together with Bedford.

    Thanx
    Toni
     
  21. Commer
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    Short update.
    The gas pedal is a mix of an old VW design and a side wheel from an old floor sander. Since the pedal and the wire moved in opposite directions I fabricated an over engineered ... thing... at the other side of the frame. Made of an old gear that I cut in two and then in halves. Hole drilling is a must for that fast moving controls... right?

    Now the job with the cab and all sheet metal starts. Will come back to that later... much later, cause as you can see from the pic's there is a lot to do.

    Rod on.
    Toni
     

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  22. Rat Rod Roach
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    Toni
    I bout fell out of my chair.... ha ha ha I knew there would be a sander part on there somewhere.... I was just waiting for it to reveal it self...:D:D:D

    Roach
     
  23. WOW, this guy is a thinker... Awesome job Toni.
    Make sure to cover up those open gears in your throttle linkage. The thought of something getting thrown up and stuck in there at supersonic speed...YIKES!
     
  24. Commer
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    Mike, I learned from the best!!! There will come more stuff!
    Exwestracer, thanks for the reminder, I will have a bellypan, but since the gears are so close to the wheel openings I guess I have to protect the cogs somehow.

    Btw, is that the beautiful rear end of a GT40 in your avatar?

    Toni
     
  25. No, that's my rear end, and it's a 36...thank you very much! :p

    The car is a 1969 Lola T163 Can-Am car, so you got the "bloodline" right.;)
     
  26. Commer
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    Ha ha, 36? Year model or size... Sorry, just kidding!
    Lola is No 2 on my wish list, got that Ford thing on my mind.
    Looks great though. The Lola of course!!!

    Toni

    :eek:)
     
  27. custom commerman holland
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    Hey toni youre still going strong .Jezus where did you learn all those skills.
    Really impresive!!

    As you now i am building on my commer rod too and i got good news I can go on whith the project the dutch M.O.T says its okee .so i can strech the chassis from the donor car. Witch is a Mercury grand marquis .And start to make everything fit. And did post some pictures. As you see on the pictures the first picture is a commer all original ,the other pictures might give you an impression of my project .I already lowered the roof for about 30 cm and lowered the frond fenders to create the illusion that it is really lays low on the ground and put on a other bumper for a more american look.

    vroooaaaaaaaaammm see ya next year vasteras.:D:D:D
     

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    Love the mid engine idea. There was actually a twin engine (flatties) Model A pickup in Hot Rod in the 50s. The builder added the second engine in the bed, so there's some "pedigree" for your idea.
     
  29. attitudor
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    Nice fabrication, thanks for sharing and keep the photos coming!
    --mika
     
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