Would anyone be interested in a new racing class?

I think it would work. At first I thought it would be cool to do the CID breaks but too many people lie. This would even the playing field. I said earlier that I had a few months to mull it over......I looked at the date.....2 years ago. I guess I had enough time to think it over. Man, where does time go?

 

I just said to FltBlk...building and running a HA/GR car with the club would be a lot of fun, but I don't care for flatheads or inlines at all.

I think this should happen....

even though I hate index racing. The point is to go faster than the other guy...but you can only go so fast...so within a couple years everyone is going to be running 10.00's and their times will only span 5 hundredths of a second. and it will suck. But the first couple years will still be fun...

And claimer classes suck too. Good idea in theory and even in practice most places I guess....but I can see a lot of people getting pissed off when their "HAMB" friend doesn't trust them, takes their motor, wastes their time taking the motor, then having to go build another motor. I don't think it would work in this case.

 

Then I could use my Edsel E-400!! That would rock!

Jay

 

I'm still interested. I don't like indexes, but it might need to be part of the combination.

 

index is cool 10 sec no faster... It really would be up to drivers but the fact is cutting a light, get a set up right and track con. and lane choice make all the difference in head up.

 

Truth is, if you get into the nines at any NHRA-sanctioned track, they ain't going to pass tech on a nice old-school-lookin' digger. You'll have all kinds of extra bars required - some of them where they show - and I'm sure that a chute and other safety equipment becomes mandatory soon thereafter.

All that said, I wish I had the money to come and play - if anybody wants to build one in my neck of the woods, I think I have a complete running '56 265 to tear down and a pair of camel-hump heads someplace in my mom's shed. Just a thought.

 

Fidgiter, I don't get it. You think a handicap would be more fun to watch?

To me, 2 cars that are equal in e.t. and speed that would come down to a bumpers length would be a lot better than watching a 10 sec car flog the crap out of a 22 sec Buick.

So what would be better and keep people honest? I'm open to suggestions.

 

All 1st gen. wedge head V8. Small block Chevy limited to 302ci and a min weight. Other engines such as Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Pymouth Poly, Dodge RB, and Ford FE limited to 400ci, to encorage variety. (I know there's a couple second gen listed there.) Auto trans (no trans brake), 8" pie crust slick spec tire, no electronic driving aids. spec chassis based on Chassis Research, Dragmaster, and early Garlits style. Alcohol fuel injected.

All racing classes have a formula or specification. After we agree on the basic design, then we set an index and go racing. I think the index should could even things up. You would have qualifying heat rounds, then split up into the A and B main.

I think we could all agree on the outline I've listed here. If there's anything listed here that won't work, let's pick it apart until we can agree.

 

I don't have any for that...maybe them knowing if they are found cheating theres a worldwide network of greasers that will beat the shit out of them?

I just like heads up racing. And heads up racing only.

 

Altereds too, or is this still just a dragster class?

 

True, there have been attempts like this in the past, but.....

Locally we have 4-5 guys with boats that always get togather just to trash eachother...lol lots of fun in betweentimes too.

That should be the glue to bind it togather, not money or class rules.

1. 330CID max.
2.No chrome moly except for roll bars.
3. 8" slicks. 8" wheels (That will get you into the low 10's)
4. Integral drive axles, no drop outs. (cost saver, weight saver and a challenge)
5. a wheelbase limit (to be determined)
6. Front engined
7. Manual trans...(Think about this one a while)
8. No leg-under-axle types.
9. Single carbs only(Maybe limited to Holly, 750, vacuum, universal only, Edelbrock and maybe a Rottenchester q-jet of a certain casting/model #)
10. Commercial, cast intake manifolds, (limit to runner length to ban tunnel rams)
11. Any Ignition (No multi-spark boxes, but rev limiters=OK)


OK, I'm tired....lol DB
5.

 

Index is heads up......

If we say the guys can only sign up for one class then there would be no reason to sandbag. They would just run a faster index.

Dave, this would be the front engine diggers.

 

Okay. I'll remain classless.

 

Maybe Fred will have his project out there this year? You guys could run.

 

"1. 330CID max. ok
2.No chrome moly except for roll bars. ok
3. 8" slicks. 8" wheels (That will get you into the low 10's) ok, I guess, I'd rather have 10" .
4. Integral drive axles, no drop outs. (cost saver, weight saver and a challenge) I may be stupid, but what's this?
5. a wheelbase limit (to be determined) ok
6. Front engined yes, of course.
7. Manual trans...(Think about this one a while) NOT OK, think about clutches blowing up.
8. No leg-under-axle types. ok
9. Single carbs only(Maybe limited to Holly, 750, vacuum, universal only, Edelbrock and maybe a Rottenchester q-jet of a certain casting/model #) not ok.
10. Commercial, cast intake manifolds, (limit to runner length to ban tunnel rams) not ok, see above.
11. Any Ignition (No multi-spark boxes, but rev limiters=OK) ok"

r

 

Im in were can I get a set of frame plans? I have a motor trans and rearend plus some other parts.....

 

I have built mine to nhra specs to 7.50, it could have been shorter,134,but it is where i want it. has sbc302 ,on alky with hilborns. looks good to me. i ran one in the 50s and probably would have to be horse whipped to run one like it again. driveshaft tubing, c/m and 98'' w/b. 10.70s at 127. my new car might not be any faster but i will be satisfied.

 

Do any of the other classes at the Hamb drags have all these stupid rules everyone wants ? Fuck no. Just make sure the cars are safe for everyone. Run what you brung and have fun, if you can't do that stay the hell at home.

No trophies, no money, no bullshit, just have fun with your car.

I never heard anyone at the drags bitch because they were 2 seconds slower that another car.Everyone was having to much fun.
If i'm told i need to change motors or tire size or my car is to long im not coming out to play. I'm building my car to my taste and not what someone else wants to see or that will probably never build a car to beguin with.
Screw the party poopers, i'll go play at test and tune night at the local track.

 

This is for a spec type class not your daily driver. It's for guys that want a designated race car that they could get in at a reasonable dollar figure. No one has asked you to change anything.

 

My car is a race car not a daily, of coarse it would be a blast if it could be. My rail is 115" wheelbase, crate 350/powerglide, and 10" slicks. Looking thru others opinions on rules it looks like i would need to change something if i want to play. But that won't happen, it's costly the way it is.
Once again run what you brung and have fun.

 

Bone Stock Rail Engine/Transmission must match.
BSR-A =Automatic
BSR-S =Two Speed Stick
239 Cu V-8 to 302.
304 Cu V-8 to 396.
Single 4Barrel
Stock cam
Points ignition
No Stroke
Max 30 over on Bore.
Headers
Set a must weigh without driver.
Street tires or 11" Cheaters (All run One or the other)

 

whats the lates talk....THE HORNETS NEED TO KNOW......

HINEY ONE OF THE HORNETS.......


http://www.bobhindmanroadsters.com

 

LETS HERE SOMETHING.................................

 

In a word SPEC TIRE...something skinney and hard. If you can't get the horsepower to the track, why pay for it? I tried to run dirt street stocks, there are guys running $20,000 cars to win $200, and believe me claimer rules don't work....my 2cents..... grouchy

 

This will get out of hand in a hurry... in 1983 i ran an NHRA C\EA with a SBC 304 cid. stock block, 461X heads, 2350lbs, single 750 carb. Ran 9:40's @ 140 mph all day. The point is you need more restrictions to keep it inexpensive otherwise you will have guys with $30,000 283cid engines and $5000.00 transmissions wanting race the guy with a stock 289.

 

That's why I was suggesting the indexes.

 

Run 8" hard slick ( spec tire ). Horse power won't matter. You won't be able to hook it up. All will be equal.

 

Really want to keep it cheap???? Lots of rules and stick to them (heavy minimum weight, small cubic inches, no transbrakes, small tires and short wheelbases) ....claimer rule in affect ($500 to claim an engine)....indexes (10, 11, 12 seconds)....and no money to win (trophy if your lucky).....That should fix that....LOL