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Would you guys consider putting a 4 cylinder in your ride?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tlmartin84, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. spiderdeville
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    IS THIS o/t ? ecm s are not traditional
     
  2. squirrel
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    If I had a smaller engine, I'd consider using a blower off a 4 cylinder (4-71)
     
  3. need louvers ?
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    I don't have a problem with four cylinders at all! Hammered tons of VWs into the 11s back in the eighties, so light weight high H.P. four cylinders, cool. F100 truck with a four cylinder, absolutely not. It's too easy to put a small or even big block V8 in one and turn out something that will do what ever it needs to do. How about a 300 inch staight six?
    For the record, I have two 2.3 liter Ford powered cars in the works right now, a narrowed '27 "T" modified, and soon a full fendered '23 "T" roadster.
     
  4. lordairgtar
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    An older guy in our club has an early 50s Anglia with a 350 small block in it. His wife really likes the little Brit cars and bought a 59 Anglia. Most of us know that those Anglias were pretty under powered. She put a Pinto 4 banger in it and doubled the performance, it seems. She didn't want an 8.
     
  5. More than double. A 59 Anglia made about 38 HP stock! Most Pinto motors are from 100-145 HP stock depending on application and year
     
  6. 32SEDAN
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    Too heavy a platform for a 4 cyl. It would always be struggling and screaming = less reliability. Go for the straight 6 and hop it up.... or a HEMI!
     
  7. h2omonkey
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    Do you realize what a a sraight six can do?
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  8. the "eliterate"redneck
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    my 48 f1 has a 2001 nissan 4 cyl..efi,,,ive got somewhere around 200hp out of it, and i love it,,,,,tilt,, cruise,,A/C!!!!! ,,,power steer,,,dependable,,,and i will suck the doors off a flattie and pass ten to one gas stations,,,full exaust with cats,,so its better on the environment,,,and it gets 28-30mpg because 10-12 mpg @ $4.00per gal..doesnt sound so great..

    open hood,no fenders=,,, straight axel,,flattie or nail head with a banjo...but if its concealed, go efi....
     
  9. jipp
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    iv been reading about slant six. same thing, its crazy what these little engines can do. iv never seen headers almost melt before.. guess iv never had a bad ass engine..

    as for a four banger.. in your project hell no.. in bucket T or something hell yeah but... problem is i have a bad left leg so i cant drive a stick anymore.. had to sell my last vw baha bug cause of such issues.. my left leg fails. so, 4 bangers need to be 4 or 5 speed..as far as im concern.. automatic 4 banger seems like a fail to me : (

    chris.
     
  10. Really? The 2001 Nissan 4 cylinder 2.0's only made 145 HP, and the 2.4 liter truck motor only made 143 and even the Altima motor only made 150-155 so unless you are running a turbo, it's highly unlikely you are getting 200 out of one through the cats and stock EFI
     
  11. 50Fraud
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    In a T-bodied modified roadster, yes. In a fullsize pickup, no way.
     
  12. lostforawhile
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    not all four cylinders sound bad, what about all the flathead 4s? I have noticed a big difference in the sound of an aluminum block 4 cyl and a cast iron block, it makes sense since the resonance of the material would be different. It also depends on the exhaust setup, and even the powerband setup, if it's setup to produce torque at lower rpms, it's going to sound a lot different then a car that produces power at higher rpms, eg, my off topic project with the iron block and low power band sounds nothing like a weedeater, and the POS beater civic DD I had sounded like crap.I'm running a 2.0, I think anything that size and up can have a decent sound, but the smaller displacements tend to have that annoying sound. Look at many of the great British classics such as Mg and Austin Healey,those cars had a great sound with the four cyl, of course the big six healey sounded killer, but that a different topic
     
  13. 117harv
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    The four cylinder, V8's half brother...bang...bang...bang...bang:D


    Four in a row can and does go..in the right ride:)
     
  14. Dakota Boy
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    The wife's VW Passat has a 4-cyl. turbo 1.8L with a 5-speed auto trans, and it flat out RIPS.

    Put four humans in it, plus one dog, and a Thule rocket-box on the roof packed full of luggage, and it "rips" slightly less... but still acceptable for only 1800cc's and a respectable 27 mpg fully loaded. 30 mpg without the box on the roof.
     
  15. lostforawhile
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    I think it would be cool to build a high powered 4 cyl for the truck, turbos are very much street friendly if setup right, think of the gas you will save too, not a small concern today, less gas means more miles of cruising
     
  16. havi
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    "A turbo four Ford Probe will blow the doors off of a 440 powered Barracuda." So my coworker says, as his brother owned both of them.

    As a Turbo Coupe guy, I can tell ya they can get up and go, and still retain decent mpg. 400hp isn't all that hard to do. The sound of one is elusive.

    But in a truck, not a chance. At least not in torque needed to get one up and go. After all, the Turbo Coupe has a very minimal drag coefficient, whereas an F100 is a big wall moving down the highway.

    I've often thought a 2.3L turbo would be pretty cool in a little Anglia.
     
  17. Lobucrod
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    Not only would I consider it......I'm doing it. I'm building a '37 Chevy PU with a 153 four banger and T5. Its just in the mockup stages right now but heres a pic.
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  18. johnybsic
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    Well... I'll just say this.
    If its between driving the old cars, Or not driving the old cars...Then yes i would.
    The way i see it fuel & emissions are only getting tougher and will never let up. ONE DAY. were all in for some serious issues. Enjoy what we got now, Wont last forever.
    So if one day I absolutely cannot run my V8 (Or a straight 6) Be it regulation, fuel prices get absoultely fuckin crazy, or rations...then i'd drop in a banger for the sake of driving the damn thing...
    Driving is traditional


    But still not my first choice. If your lookin for something else, Seriously look into like a jeep 4.0. KILLER little engines, tough as all get out and awsome power & driveabillity for a lighter vehicle
     
  19. seventhirteen
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    I wouldn't ever put a 4 banger in a car, I could see me getting a stocker with a banger and hopping it up though
     
  20. caseyrod
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    what are you going to do with all that extra space?
     
  21. burnin53
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    To me,it's not only how fast it goes,but how it sounds going fast.

    Maybe a T,A,or B banger motor,but not one of those more modern fours that sound like a detuned,low compression chainsaw motor.
     
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  22. havi
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    My current IH KB2 project is getting one with a Hesco stroker. :)

    But the 4.0L is an I6
     
  23. tlmartin84
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    I keep going back to the ranger............I mean size wise it and an F100 are nearly identical, weight and aerodynmically.

    Most like I am building a 300, but think about the gas. A hopped up four banger would have no problems moving the truck down the road, and still have a little extra something........... Your not gonna set any record breaking quarter times I know but as far as a daily driver and gas mileage.........I can't see how it would be any different than a ranger period. Have any of you guys drove a ranger or s10...... They have more hp than a lot of the old motors did back in the day.

    Keep in mind I am building a driver.....to and from work. I want something to drive thats affordable and fun and doesnt kill me everytime I fill it up. It's not towing or pulling anything for. Thats what Ive got a 2005 F150 with a towing package for......
     
  24. loco_gringo
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  25. tlmartin84
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    I don't want to invest a ton of money in a motor that in 5-10 years can't afford drive because the oil companies are bending us over ............ further. And I'm not into that looking pretty thing sitting in the garage all the time, screw that.

    Like the old guy said, trailers are for horses.........
     
  26. Deyomatic
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    Go for it- with turbo, that is. I wouldn't bother without.
     
  27. burnin53
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    I see where you're coming from,but you don't want to invest in a motor you don't really like do you?
    I'd rather build what I want and drive it 5-10 years or whatever,than to put a four cylinder in it and hate it,then maybe find out that I actually could afford to feed my dream motor.
    What's under the hood is the heart and soul of your car.
    Could you imagine a '49 Merc with a four-banger?I sure can't.
     
  28. tlmartin84
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    lol in all honesty I'm about 90% sure im building the six (already purchased some parts for it)

    Just playing a little bit of devils advocate here............that and 2.3's are a dime a dozen you can pick up a whole truck for under 600 bucks...
     
  29. beast460
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    no. i blow all this money on these old heaps so i can share the sound of a loud-ass v-8 with my neighbors. i'm sure they thank me every time i turn a key.
     
  30. hillbillyhellcat
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    I'd rather go with a V6, with a series 1 or 2 3800 if you're talking about MPG.

    If money was no object, which I sure it is. I'd buy a crate 5.0 like in the new Mustang. Badass mileage and HP.
     

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