Y-Block Powered A's

What mounts did you use, what exhaust manifolds/headers?

Got pics of your Y-powered-A?

 

Yea mine is, 1956 292, look at g***erkid , he's got pics posted of it. Made the mounts and the headers

 

The Y-Block I'll be using has the front cradle mount and the bellhousing mounts from a '58 F-100. Should I use that setup, or is there a better way?

 

My "A" will be using the typical V-8 (flathead style) rubber donuts - two off of the block and 2 off of the trans. The motor is a '56 292 or 312 out of an Interceptor boat. The trans is a '47 Ford truck trans. The headers are by Matt in Mn - lakeheader style with baffle inserts.

 

Heres a project we just finished up, its your low-buck, basic toy. We started with a Model A original frame (thanks Crease), boxed it for strength and also we could use a set of original y-block crossmembers anywhere along the frame. The y-block I believe is from a 60's truck, we sectioned the rear A cross member and did a makeshift ****** hump/u joint ****ter shield from 1/4 plate. The cab is a channeled 34 truck cab and let me tell you, your longest and worst nightmare is gonna be squeezin 3 pedals between the ****** and lower cowl.

 

Not an A body, but in my 34 pickup with an A frame I used the Speedway FE ford motor mount kit, exact same as a Y block. This uses the stock rubber side mounts. The ****** mount I made out of a Pete and jakes ladderbar loctator crossmember. It locates the rear wishbones and tailshaft on the ******.
engine is a (gulp) 1954 239....but I have a mean 312 buildup for it in the future Manifolds are the stock (and rare) rams horns with 35/36 driveshaft used for pipes underneath

 

Always loved this one. Lon in Indy drives this badboy around quite a bit.

 

I like these manifolds, y-block Rams Horns.

 

My green PU has a 312 with toploader 4spd. Used flathead type front motor mounts on homemade mounts. Welded up my own headers.

 

I use stock motor mounts on mine. I know, big help right!
Wish I had an "A" to put my Y-bock in.

 

If you don't use the truck mount, there are motor plates, I think Cragar made them. My dad and I are putting a built 57 Merc 312 in his A roadster, he found a few of these plates on E bay. We haven't mounted it yet, but it looks like it uses the 2 donut mounts in the front, like an early chevy.

 

chris and lesabre59- you guys got any good pics of your motor mounts ect? what about steering box clearance withe the ram horns? i have a f-100 box i plan to use in my A.

lesabre59- is that a car trans? the one i have came from a truck and has the mounts on either side of the bellhousing.

 

I built my own in 1959,28 A roadster bob tail,y-block 292.
I made from a long 3x3in x 1/4 angle iron across the front timing cover mount to each side of frame,with 2 rubber donuts ,one under, one above,but on trans used stock mount.

 

Rodney (Abone312) out of Houston has a bad-*** Y-block/t5 powered A-coupe. He's a got a lot of road miles on his so whatever he did seems to be working fine. Shoot him a PM.

 

Don't knock the 239.
My Dad( a Y-Block Guru), swears by this engine.

I love it that there are so many HAMBer's using Y-Blocks, my favorite engine.
My project using a A-Bone frame and T body will powered by a '56 Y-Block with a (hopefully!!) Interceptor intake and Borg Warner 3-spd.

 

me my dad saved an old car that was at my late grandmas house...i wanted the rear end and eventually i may use the y block for something...gonna use a merc flathead for my A sedan though

 

I did the body and paint on the one that is on the 2006 coker whitewall catalog cover. I have always thought that motor looked good in an A

 

Not a good shot, but you might just make out I used original mounts moved forwards a little and a thick plate with drilled gusset to attach the mount to the original bolt holes on the engine (also uses a truck auto box so has mounts off the bellhousing - belt and braces!). I used F100 headers, pie cut slightly under the exhaust ports to tweak them inside the rails. Mounted an F100 steering box 'on top' of the ch***is.

 

If the cradle mount referred to is the FE type that goes under the motor, using the two motor side mounts at mid engine, the Rams Horns will interfere at those points.
Front mounts through the timing cover in the manner of trucks or 55-57 T birds should give the Horns clearance. There were Hurst versions made for adapting Y's to pre 48 Fords and that is what I use in my 46. It goes through the timing cover and to the existing frame attachment points and sounds similar to one of the poster's above.
T-birds had a rear ****** mount instead of the truck type. The trucks which ears of the cast iron bellhousing. As you know that housing is heavy as hell. One option would be to get an aluminum Y to C-4 adaptor, and have the rear mount at the back of the C-4.
The Rams Horns are expensive (what isnt), to the tune of around $350.

 

japchris - is that a special 4x2 intake or a double quad with adapters? How did it run?

 

Just had to throw in a pic of my motor. "y-blocks forever!".

 

What front truck mount do you have?
I wanted to use the front mount with the single square rubber pad and it would not fit with the car crank pulley, it rubbed on the ribs formed on the mount plate. The truck belt is spaced out for the water pump & that funny fan mount thing and I have seen some without a harmonic. I used the truck mount with 2 rubber biscut pads and it fit the car pulleys.
If you have a car engine, you will need a Tbird or truck timing cover, RePop has'em in cast alloy.

 

Here are some pictures of an early 'hurst' mount that I found somewhere.

 

Annika put a yblock in here sedan, it is a 292 with a t-10 four speed.

if you have not seen this before here is a link
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124153&page=2

She tried to use a saddle mount originally, but the fuel pump and generator were in the way, she ended up making a mount from the side of the block to a biscuit type mount.

there are some pics of the mounts in that thread.
she has the truck bellhousing, to use the hydraulic clutch, and swing pedals
help with the tight quarters, but it is still a sqeeze.

good luck with the project

 

Nobuckets - thats a twin 4-barrel intake that I made adapters for. It ran but not so great as I forgot to put a balance tube between the centre two carbs. Now got a tri-power back on it but putting a 'modified' 4 carb set up is on the list of things to do.

 

The mount nobuckets pictured above is the one I use. It required an electric H20 pump because it interfered with the mechanical. Another issue was the oil filter. It was too close to the Vega steering box, and needed to be setup with a byp*** and remote filter.
Regarding running a Y without balancer, the only ones that should be without are the 239s, and possibly the 254s.

 

KROPDUSTER....
The trans and bell-housing are from a 63 f-100, the motor mounts are modified 56 f-100. the steering box is a vega unit and is mounted behind the radiator so horns werent a problem

 

thanks----am i seeing the trucks bellhousing mount crossmember in the A frame? that would be too easy

 

Yes since we boxed the frame, we just cut/narrowed the bell housing mounts and full welded to the inside of the frame, same with the front mount

 

Not a Model A but I thought you might like to see this 292 Y-Blocked powered '47 Crosley drag racer from the March '59 Car Craft magazine.
4- Stromberg 97 carbs on a home made manifold, '48 Caddy transmission, '47 Ford front axle, 4.11 posi rear, Isky Cam, rocker arms, and lifters.Oh Ya! The head light buckets were mounted backwards to help cut wind resistance.
That would have been a fun car to drive!