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Discussion in 'HA/GR' started by Old6rodder, May 22, 2008.

  1. Old6rodder
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    Here're a couple pictures of ThingyM's ongoing build.
    Just to whet your appe***es 'til he starts his build thread. :D
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2009
  2. 64 DODGE 440
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    That shop is far too big and far too clean. He will never amount to anything.:D

    Damn.......I would love to have a place like that to build in.

    The boy don't look to far from rolling that baby out and making a p***.
     
  3. Toymaker
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    Thingy' Got a deadline , how 'bout the Hot Rod Reunion?
     
  4. ThingyM
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    Yep.. But I got to rebuild the motor.. Found some things that need to be fixed.ETC..Will definately try for the Reunion..Also need some parts.Bellhousing,Trans,flywheel, Making most of the stuff by hand by myself takes time.. Gonna change the roll bar to a 6 point cage.For are ol' buddies at NHRA. Plus I gotta get my Altered ready too.. Hope, I Hope, ****...
     
  5. Rand Man
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    Keep up the good work. You could stick that Fiat body on your rail and take a photo, just for fun.
     
  6. Toymaker
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    ****, I'll check I may have a 3 spd ******. The bellhousing and flywheel I may have also but they're stock.
     
  7. ThingyM
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    Rocky,, I got a fully syncro 3sp. coming from a friend of mine in Kansas..What I really need is to find a suitable flywheel..I will chuck it up on the lathe and cut it down. Then have it surface ground anyway, So it doesn't need to be perfect..As far as the Bellhousing.. That would be cool...BTW. Are dual disc clutches legal.???
     
  8. mudflap261
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    the rules do not address that . but iam sure the bug did not have one my personal opinion is it should be single disc lock up clucth ,of high quality.or soon some will want to usea slider am I wrong
     
  9. 348chevy
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    Well I had a slider and didn't want one. It certainly was not an advantage. I think a normal clutch should be standard. Because the friction surface is above the rest of my flywheel I thought I needed to shim the clutch up to that level. Not so it slipped badly. Maybe with some exotic surface it might have been alright but with an organic surface it just smoked. I think we can over engineer these things. The Bug was probably a 3/8 by 3/8 flathead [296cu.in.] and probably running on 25% nitro and 75% Menthol. Most everyone in the early days of racing ran some type of fuel. It's just like today everyone runs nitros oxide, easy way to get extra horsepower. Back to the clutch, would going to a slipper clutch really help with these cars? I doubt that it would be any advantage because we just don't have enough horsepower. I think slippers are only an advantage when you are looking for traction and high gear only. If you are shifting gears it doesn't look to me that would help. It is just my opinion and everyone has one.:confused:Roy
     
  10. Toymaker
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    I think **** is pulling our chain:D, but I do agree with 348'. I'll check on the flywheel and bellhousing and let you know ****.
     
  11. ThingyM
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    Naaaaa, I'm not pulling your chain...A friend of mine who builds T/F clutches, Has one lying around and wanted to know if I could use it. Thats All.. I told him "I doubt it"... Thats why I asked..And it's free...
     
  12. Ron Golden
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    Roy,

    How did you do in Tulsa? Did the clutch work OK?

    Ron
     
  13. 348chevy
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    The race isn't until the 30th which is next friday. The clutch releases now but I don't know if it will slip. My problem is I don't have a testing area around the house. I would have to load it on the trailer and haul it to a lonely road somewhere and unload it to test it. The clutch is a 10 1/2 in. diaphram with an organic disk nothing complicated about it. I have plenty of room with the linkage, I just don't know what the problem can be. Maybe it is solved now, won't know until friday. The problem is with the formed bellhousing there is no getting into the clutch without taking the transmission out and bellhousing off. :(Roy
     
  14. ThingyM
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    348,, Cant you cut a rectangular inspection hole in the can,?? Then make a cover for it.. Like we have in the Ti Cans. Then Hold the cover down with 6 bolts..Or is it a standard style bell housing..???
     
  15. Old6rodder
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    My thought as well.
    Most "formed" bells are full circle, are they not?
    Perhaps an access on the bottom (rather like a stock bell) so it couldn't compromise the ****ter pattern except toward the asphalt even if the cover did let go?
     
  16. 348chevy
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    The Bellhousing is 360 degrees with the only hole being where the clutch actuating arm goes in to push the throwout bearing. I have tried to look through that but it doesn't give me enough room to slip a feeler gauge in so I can see how much it is releasing. I suppose that I could cut a hole in the bottom but I want to think long and hard on that one. It might ruin the integrity of the bellhousing. Anyway, we'll find out Friday night if I can spin a tire instead of having smoke come out of the clutch housing. There should be a way of setting up a clutch so you would know it was right. Like when you tighten down the cover what height should the fingers be from the surface of the disk? I know there is an answer just need someone who knows clutches to chime in here.:(Roy
     
  17. mudflap261
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    roy do you have clucth rebuilder in your area if so they can check the release hight for you in abuout 5 minutes
     
  18. ThingyM
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    Well,, I got my body material today. .040--3003 Aluminum..And made a Dzus fastner dimpler, for the skin.. ****** is on its way here from Kansas. Its a Muncey close ratio 4 speed.. Thought I would use that since my little Chev. 6 would be down on power..Got an Alum. bell housing also..Still trying to figure what wheels to run on the back. Got to plumb the back brakes next, Gonna use a 10 lb residule valve.. Got the 18" spokes mounted on the front now also.. Slowly but surely its coming along..
     
  19. Toymaker
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    Any progress ****? I bet the 18" wheels look sweet!
     
  20. ThingyM
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    Got to go up to Washington this weekend. "G"Daughter Graduation from High School.. So no work this weekend.. I'll take a picture or two on Monday..Also got a new seat (Better) Yea, I like the spoke wheels too. They came off the Fiat when I put the 5 spoke mags on the front..
     
  21. ThingyM
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    Quick Question:: Do most of you run spools or open rearends, or mini spool...I have mine gutted, And was thinking what to do for it.....
     
  22. Joe Hamby
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    I run a ratchet type of posi, because if I get sidewise I have a better chance of coming out of it safely. With a spool you could be in deep trouble. Joe
     
  23. REJ
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    I run a poor mans posi.
    Four pounds less air in the right tire and a ridgid mounted rear, if it spins, it spins both tires through first and second.
    Robert
     
  24. ThingyM
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    Spent most of the day working on the HA/GR..Radiator is mounted. Puke tank hooked up(Polished Fire extinguisher) Electric fuel pump mounted,Made front motor mounts. Going to take the head over to the rebuilder, Some seats and valves. And 7/16" rocker studs...Going to do more tomarrow..I'm tired.. I'm going to bed..
     
  25. Toymaker
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    WOO-HOO! Did ya get your residual psi valve? See ya this weekend..............Rocky
     
  26. ThingyM
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    No Rocky, I sure didn't..But I did get the rearend all back together with new brakes etc. It seems like for some reason that I keep starting to work from the front to the back..
     
  27. ThingyM
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    Rocky.. I won't be able to be there this weekend.. We had a family member p*** away. And the service is Friday in Clearlake..
     
  28. ThingyM
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    You know, I really want to be at the ANRA race this weekend at the Patch.I want to see you and **** going down the track again.. Butch just told me about another fella intrested in the HAMB cars..You know, the more the merrier..He wants to see a HA/GR cl*** of its own. Have fun,,I also understand that there is a pot luck after the races.....WaaaHoooo...
     
  29. Toymaker
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    Sorry for your loss and we will look for ya in August.
     
  30. ThingyM
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    Well Boys and Girls..Ch***is is just about completed.. Waiting for the new front hoop to finish the cage..Now it's time to start on the motor. Crank is in good shape. So just a micro polish and balance..New Steve Long cam and solid lifters.. Rods will be ground smooth Shot Peened and polished. Using some new Egge Machine pistons..New steel flywheel and Clutch plus a Muncey close ratio 4 speed..Head will have new valves, Match ported. With new springs(heaver) 7/16" rocker studs. Crane roller rockers with ****ons. And I'm going to attempt to make my own stud girdle.(This aught to be fun)..Getting closer to making my first p*** in quite a while..Last one was in Yr. 2000 ..Just got to old to handle the fast stuff (73) so this should be a real kick in the ****...****..
     

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