Technical You must be the reason I can't buy good paint stripper anymore!!!

Thanks. Is this a special order item or generally available?

 

Too bad many good products are no longer available.
As a carpenter I only used a oil stain called sikkens with cetol D added.
Is the only wood protector I could use in heavy sunlight such as New Mexico, Texas. I can apply it and will last for years. ..... No longer sold in the United states.
Now the products am stuck with, feel lucky if it last 6 months ..... ridiculous.

 

They still make the good stuff. A local aircraft company created their own version. I can see if they will sell it to the general public.


Columbia Coatings are good folks.

 

Removes powder coating but packaged in a plastic container.

I’m not making fun of it, just interesting is all.

 

I used aircraft stripper to remove three bad paint jobs from my 64 Ranchero, what a mess, it took two or three aplications to get it off and I used 4 gallons of it. probably would have been better to have it dipped. For the 59 gasser thingy I bought a water born media blaster, lots faster, no mess in the shop and I've still got the equipment, It makes more sense to buy the media blaster equipment as I will always strip any car I paint.

 

this stuff works pretty close to the old stuff.

 

I had an old can of airplane stripper under my work bench, when I cleaned up a month ago, I went to unscrew the lid to see if it was any good still, the entire top of the can just fell apart. It looked like it had been on the ocean floor for decades. yeah, that was the good stuff.

 

Sounds like something "brewed up" back in the hills by some local boys. They may have found a new market for home-brewed paint stripper. Might be something the revenuers might be interested in knowing about.

 

The new stuff is useless on hardened paint. Seems to work fine on rattle can paint, but heck, so does lacquer thinner.

When I go to estate sales, I always check cabinets in basements and garages, hoping to find the good stuff. A while back my wife and I were walking in the neighborhood and spotted a free pile. There in all its glory was an unopened gallon can of the good stuff, Methylene Chloride and all. It was like Christmas had come early.

Trouble is, with this limited supply, now I'm like Elaine in that Seinfeld episode. I'm constantly asking myself, "Is this project stripper-worthy?"

 

One way to keep careless amatures from buying/using something is to just price it out of most of them's price range 375.00 for a five gallon pail would do that with the Powder stripper. LLoyd would have to pass that cost on to the customer but it is either the cost of the chemical or the cost of the labor.

Reading the data on Methylene Chloride and the list of things you shouldn't do goes right back to the missuse/improper way of using.

 

Rather accidental, but when young, HotFuel for flying model airplanes would remove a lot of types of paint. Which is why there existed HotFuel-Proof Dope. Fuel contained Nitro(in varying % mixes), methanol, benzene, castor oil, & some other cool toxic-zenes. Course then you'd have to strip the HotFuel components from the model, or car, or bicycle, or whatever you spilled it on before paint would stick, much less not bubble. But the smell of the fumes after it went thru the little mills was intoxicating... . Mmmmmm...
I also seem to remember the LightningStrip Highlander mentions, only in a pint n quart can. Miserable shit to be around, damn-near destroyed the thing painted as fast as the paint got bubbled/crazed/whacked. Yeeauch...
Guess you could use some straight Nitro as a paint remover. Almost like the old commercial: "Wiping & shining, wiping & shining...".

Marcus... I received a Model 3-wheel trike with a Cox 049 engine for Christmas. It was fueled by that Nitro-Castrol oil mix your talking about. Sold to kids back in the day. I thought I'd include my little sister in the manly fun, I tied her new Barbie Bus to the back of that Trike and pulled it all around the Neiborhood for hours. As usual, I was in deep trouble. That fuel got all over Barbie and all her stuff, started dissolving it. I had to shovel snow for a while to replace Barbie, bus and all the other Accessories. It was like paying Spousal Support at 12 years old.

 

I just spoke with a representative at the number listed on the can. The website didn't really help me any. They are having a guy call me back today to set up an account. I appreciate the help big man

 

The stripper looks emaciated.

 

Speaking of stuff that doesn’t work, don’t bother buying a can of “non clorinated” brake cleaner. It’s about 7 bucks, and does almost nothing. A bottle of Dawn dish soap works better.

 

I'm not responsible for the down-grade in paint stripper, but I may be partly accountable for the "Drink Responsibly" warnings on the side of your beer cartons

Cheers,
Harv

 

There is one product on the market that is extremely effective. It's Coopers Strip club product from New Zealand. Pricey but worth every penny. They have demo videos on there web site that will show how well it works. I was able to strip. my Corvette project down to bare fiberglass in about 11 hours. That was every side, door jams, everything. I highly recommend it.

 

OMJ; That's funny... .
Haven't tried to buy that stuff for decades. Bought it by the gallon. Now I'm wondering & pondering - I think I *need* some of that. If for no other reason than it contains Nitro & would make a great shelf-display... . Still have most of the engines, .020->.35 . The stuff I liked was KB100(more nitro, iirc), other stuff was KB1000(supposedly more "refined" for smaller engines. I learned swapping fuels didn't work well, but if you broke the little mills in on the KB100, they loved it & ran well.) . Learned that straight Ivory dishsoap would remove the castor oil from fingers, n such. Well, now a trip to the HobbyShop is in order. Wonder iffen I'll have to "register", get finger-printed, et-al, like Racer-X when he buys nitro. Much as I dislike the Feds, maybe having them "watch over" the place for break-ins would be worth it. . Well, suppose this might be getting ot.
Oh, & then there was HotFuel-Proof glue - cough... .

For you other guys that use the stripper, do you tape off *all* the seams/holes/crevices/etc; then sand those areas? How do you keep that crap from getting into seamed areas & then slowly oozing back out later in time? & then totally completely neutralize it. That's why I quit using anything like it.
TIA.
Marcus...

 

I spoke with a guy called nick, he told me I needed to speak with Matt to set up a commercial account, and Matt was at lunch, but he would call me back in the hour. Never heard from them. I'll call tmrw. From what I've figured out, the place in Tennessee is a powder coating supply kinda place, that sells this stripper, the place in Missouri, which the number on the can is for, is the place that makes it. Not sure about that, but all I care about is being able to buy it lol.

 

Methylene Chloride was what made the difference! Once the rules were changed to eliminate it from the product, it was never the same! Not being political because I don't want this thread closed, just addressing the topic as a retired Research Chemist.

 

This is awesome news. Thanks @Moriarity .

 

I won't swear to what the guy Nick said, but I believe it's $375 for 5 gallons. That's $75 a gallon. If it works its well worth it. But I'll follow up once I talk to somebody tmrw.

 

The company that made that Powderstrip is less than 10 miles from where I work. I didn’t look carefully at the picture to see where it was made. I had to look up the company to see if we had ever worked on their trucks, but I have not heard of the parent company, Express Chemical.

 

Since you are a legitimate business, you CAN buy the good old stuff.

https://www.cmaproducts.com/strippers.html#

 

This might be considered political so if so mods please delete but consider this post before complaining about not being able to get "the good stuff" anymore. Or not.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/cancer.1311796/page-2#post-15161419

 

The local hardware store had a closeout, so I bought a out 3 gallons of different new crap. I'm only out 3.75, so no big loss. It pulled a little paint, but made more of a mess . All the more reason to use Razor blades.

 

A lot of that stuff was better, although largely for the individual. But the population of the US is almost twice what it was when I was a kid 334M vs 189M. That means even if everything is 50% less stress on the environment, we haven't changed a thing.. That's not how I want to leave the world for my grand-kids.