You want how much $$$$$$$$

Has some of auto prices on the HAMB sell board gone EGAY price or is that the most reasonable going price?

 

Prices are up everywhere. It's about time.

 

That is fine if you are a seller and prices are up reasonably not unreasonably like EBAY. We want to help the hobby not hurt it. Some prices should be on the BOYD BOARD.

 

Such as???

 

so helping the hobby means giving your car away? Ok then, let's start with yours.

 

All I am saying are the prices reasonable or unreasonable or is that the going price? Nothing specific I am not trying to be mean, so school me.

 

Why does everyone squak at the online auctions???? Some of us dont live in Cali where theres a swap meet every weekend. Ill agree its alittle crazy on pricing sometimes but, i think i have as many good deals as many high priced deals.
Beside that where esle can you go to the 24 hr swap meet???? and if you dont like it, you can hit the off ****on and turn on the speed channel!

 

It's simple. If dude lists car at set price and someone buys it, that must be the going rate.

 

Either way. I can finally build a car and make money, or at least get my money back out of it. If your buying, unless you get stupid, you have an investment, rather than a money pit. Even if you have little money to spend, you can still build a hot rod, maybe not a 32, but if your resorceful, you can still have a cool hot rod. The hobby has never been better. Like in every other market there are dreamers, asking way more than it's worth, but like always
everything is worth what it sells for, no more, no less.

 

Yeah like if a guy was trying to sell the cab of a pickup and another guy offers him say $1, then that must be the going rate, lol!

 

And I realize that Tinbender and you seem to be an honest and educated guy but I hate to see the younger guys to whom we are trying to help an teach get discouraged.

 

Thanks Von I needed that.

 

It is the going rate if the seller accepts it.

Do they not teach economics out there?

 

Rashy I know what you are saying, but I thought we were supposed to help the young guy and teach him traditionally that he can build and buy reasonably and most of all safely....

 

I can only go by what I see, but I think there are way more young people involved in the hobby than ever. At least in my area. 10 years ago it was nothing but old farts at the shows and gatherings. Or maybe I just became an old fart, and everybody else just seems young
In the past 2 years or so I've had more students into rods and muscle cars (they are 40 years old now) than ricer cars. Again, it's a small cross section that I'm exposed to, but definatly a noticeable change.

 

And you are right my son is 25 and we are building him a 53 Ford and it is coming out of his own pocket and raising a family it is tough but I am teaching him to do it reasonably within his means and primer is wonderful.

 

Good for both you and your son! That's how we keep it alive and well. Both the hobby, and our relationship with the kids.

 

Which one would you like for me to give away?

 

There may be some people (myself included) that don't know prices beyond what we see at swaps or on Egay (on certain parts). The WIW posts here go over like a turd in a punch bowl, so we're kinda stuck. I posted up a for sale ad that I thought had "HAMB" prices, but I haven't got a bite. Economics has taught me that regardless if I've seen these parts for sale at the price I asked, that's not the going rate...for this market.

Bryan

 

well i have told that i sell my stuff to cheap butsome guys dont get it i am in for the fun and the build .fun meaning getting to know more people and see what they are building and if i can make a bit to help build my cars then we are all good.i meet a kid the other day he was 15 or so and he had pics of a 53 chevy two door sedan all chopped and looking *****ing and he was all pumped up about doing his car that is who we need to be helping , and if we can do by not been to stupid on the prices then it is worth it.

 

my 2 cents- building a car cheap will ALWAYS be an option, just not the popular "hot rods". The fact is, they're not making old cars anymore, so once the pool dries up the prices go up. I think today's youth are going to have to settle for 70's and 80's cars, the kids in the fifties wanted brand new V* sports cars and could only afford ratty old Model A's, it just so happens that what they did with them is what has made them stand the test of time.

That's why so many kids are building ratty old 80's Honda Civics, hell I paid $800 for a good condition Mazda 929, a very pretty car, rear drive V6. Not as cool as a hot rod by far, but it's an affordable driver with potential.

The prices can't stay low, that's a fact of life, the new generation will have to scrounge for something else

I tried advertising my A coupe for $1000 less than I had in it in cold hard cash, let alone the hundreds of hours of labor and waiting on backordered parts, but nobody bit. So, I took it off, that's the best you can do, I can't BEGIN to afford to take a hit on the car just so a young guy can get a great start to a hot rod, sorry.

I wish as a teenager I could have afforded a hot rod, but reality stood in the way- it took ELEVEN YEARS to be able to afford one! I settled for a 70's pickup and hot rodded it the best i could

 

I wish as a teenager I could have afforded a hot rod, but reality stood in the way- it took ELEVEN YEARS to be able to afford one! I settled for a 70's pickup and hot rodded it the best i could[/quote]

...and when I was in high school, I drove a '57 Chevy 210 2 door, but that was because I was 16 in 1976, when you could still buy a ragged but running '57 for $130 like I did. One of my friends bought a '67 Camaro at the same time for $175; try doing that today. If they had commanded even a fraction of what they go for today, I'd have been driving something else. I, too, had to wait until after college and job hunting to get into buying some of my dream cars.

 

I thought i had missed the bulletin at the last Pomona swap meet. I hadn't been in a while, but a lot of dudes were dreaming. That buick was amazing but he wanted 60k. My buddy was reading it off to me and i thought he said "16k", and i was like "oh thats a good deal", but then he was like "no,6-0"
Another one of my buddies bought a ford like that for $700, like 6 years ago, sure prices go up, but i cant imagine it would be that much! more power to them though. I hope they get it.

 

Nothing wrong with fishing. I've been carrying around an extra '56 Olds air cleaner in Big Olds' trunk and putting it in front of my car at events with a hefty price tag on it. I know it's steep but I don't HAVE to sell it. I just want to get the most from it that I can. Why would I not?? It does look good hanging on my garage wall and if it doesn't sell at Kzoo this weekend then perhaps I'll stick it in the HAMB cl***ifieds or it will go back on the wall for the winter.

 

I'm strictly a Model A guy...and I'e pieced what I've driven out of junk parts..and have bought a few ch***is's worth of modern parts from good manufacturor's like Pete and Jake's and Ch***is Engineering. It's never been better getting good engineered and safely welded paarts for your ch***is than it is today. The going rate on those parts has stayed pretty much level, and affordable. So the buy-in price is still not a give away, but it's been affordable for the average Joe.

What keeps going up is the price of an early Ford body. I just visited with a friend of mine the other day who has a very salvable Model A coupe, a 29, that needs the ususal patch panels all around, and it's got a crudely executed chop that's also salvable. he wants $2000. I told him that if we took some time this winter and put in the patch panels and redid the chop, at $3500 it would be a give away price compared to the $4000 to $5000 prices I've been seeing on the HAMB. Just bring it up to primer.

It's supply and demand. I've bought 2 Model A coupes for $25 and $35 respectively (1973). Dad said I paid too much money. One butchered 30 coupe was a freebie. The remains of a 28 Tudor was also free, as was a very badly neglected 31 Tudor. A Tudor 29 was $450(1990). And the most I spent was $850 from fellow HAMBer Mecuten for $850 in 97. Years ago you couldn't give away a set of Early Ford V8 wires or even a set of the 16 inch disc wheels. Now they're gold. You have to have those parts to have the right look. Some of the Early Ford V8 guys wanted the juice brakes. Those were the guys who weren't purists. Most of that stuff went to the crusher.

I've got this homemade car that my sons and I put together. We'll be driving it to the NSRA Nats this weekend. A woodie wagon, a 28 Ford cowl (free) and hood ($75) and radiator shell ($2) and the rest came out of the shop or the reproduction catalog. It's worthless. Relatively speaking. A basically stock A ch***is that the hot rodders throw away. And powered by a "kit" engine from Hemming's Motor News. A 2.0 liter Ford Pinto. ($700, plus a new carb on Monday that cost $146.02) I had a bear of a time finding exhaust valves. Ended up I had a spare head squirrelled away in the garage in my junk pile that donated 3 valves.. (Come to think of it, the whole garage is full of junk.)

My car is what hot rodding is all about. It really gets the restorer's going. They make a run for it and then when they get up close they realize that they've been scammed. They all want to buy it, but then start knocking it because it's not all "original".

All I get is waves and smiles from the citizenry when I drive past.

I'll never be without a Model A. I'm going to get the old coupe back together and on the road. Reading a lot of the postings here on the HAMB has made me change a few things on that car, but it's all for the better.

There's nothing wrong with making a dollar, but I try to make trades for the stuff I want/need rather than a dollar. It seems that when I get money in my hands it goes into the gas tank or it gets spent on something other than the old car hobby.

I don't think that anyone out there is in a position to give their car away.

My mom told me when I first started out in the old car hobby with my first Model A coupe that I'd be further ahead to get a minimum wage job and just bank the earnings until I had enough to just buy a nice car in good condition. Rather than trying to find all of the pieces and parts my car needed.

When you factor in all the tools I had to buy, the torch and sheetmetal tools and aprts, she was 100% right on. If I had paid myself $1 an hour I wouldn't be able to afford to buy my car. And the 8 s***ches in my forehead ($80-1976). And all the cuts and burns.

But it was a learning experience. When this one restorer who told me that he'd have to take my car apart and rebuild everything, it was with a bit of pride that told him that I had held every part, every pin and every bearing in my fat little hands at one point or another in the years since 1973.

I can't fix much on my daily driver. But I can fix my Model A's.

 

a car is not worth anything until cash is in hand.

People could ask 60k, but it doesnt mean he'll get it.

Some people are really over themselves with prices like that.

I just smirk and walk away.

 

If I list something here on the HAMB, I feel it's pretty cheap. I like to give a guy a deal if he (she) is going to USE it. I've gotten great deals in return.
Someone's said it before....KARMA.
Hell, I've given parts to help a CAUSE. Whadaya need?

 

I find this thread really interesting (it should be on the regular board) and my conclusion is this, it matters what side of the fence you are on and when, it just so happens I am selling my 49 ford here on the hamb, reason being most on here "get it" know what it is , could be and what a reasonable value is. It has not sold, and I feel my price is fair, but if I were in the buyers camp I would want to pay as little as possible. I think what happens is that as sellers we think we are giving it away, but as buyers, the sellers are greedy *******s out to screw us! Also I beleive in face to face, man to man (or women) negotiations, don't tell me you'll give me X amount from 5 hundred miles away, drive it, look under the hood, kick the tires! Then make an offer. That is the way it has always been done. Worst that can happen is agreeing to disagree.

 

I think your right about the young guys. I'm 17 yrs. old and currently building my first hot rod, a 30' model a p/u. I've been pinstriping for 3 years. As far as the prices go, if you feel it's $$$$$ fabricate it your self or do some horse trading. I traded a stripe job on my friends 63' galaxie(he's in his early 20's) for a 69' Ford 240 inline 6 w/3speed. It has a offenhauser C series intake w/4 barrel carb, and a mild cam. To me that's a great deal.