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Zip Water Pump Riser

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bib Overalls, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. flatmotor40
    Joined: Apr 14, 2010
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    I use a Snow White on my A with Chevy 6cyl pumps found it at Moultrie years ago for $50 use 5 blade fan
     
  2. 5_guy
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    I know this is an old thread but I'm glad I came across this as it has been so helpfull . Picking up my Radiator from the Br***works and he sells water pumps for the Zip riser but what thru me off was its for a 6 cylinder so I'm thinking how does this work for a SBC? After reading this thread now I know, thanks fellas!
     
  3. If anyone is interested, Speedway Motors now carries the Zip W/P riser, TR
     
  4. 5_guy
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    Question for Deuce Roadster, I now have my ZIP riser & water pump thanks to Br***works Radiator. I am at the stage of installing the motor and radiator, what clutch fan & fan did you use? Any help is will appreciated, thanks!
     
  5. dirty old man
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    I realize your post and questions are directed to Deuce Roadster and I won't invade that. Randy can write a book on what I Don't Know.
    Just a caution: Pay attention about the GM bleeder valve! I had already mounted the riser with glued gaskets, and ditto for the water puimp, then when I got the GM valve it was gonna require a simple drill & tap operation, but all my **** was glued on!!!!!! And that means that a drill & tap is followed with a lot of chips to remove. Gonna be a PITA with pump & riser already glued in place! So the rinky-dink from Zip is still there!
    Dave
     
  6. 5_guy
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    Hey Dave no problem there, funny thing is my buddy is a parts manager for a GM dealership and he got me that bleeder valave and dropped it off tonite.
    The fist thing I did was to remove the screw that came with the ZIP riser and I saw that it smaller than the bleeder valve.

    Good thing I had not mounted the water pump or I would have issues like you said.
     
  7. nwbhotrod
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    I have the Snow White on my Roadster
     

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  8. Deuce Roadster
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    On the 32 Roadster, I have a V8 Monza 7 blade clutch fan. I have been told that GM no longer lists them in their parts catalog :( But I have not tried.

    On the 32 3W coupe ... I have a 7 blade fan ... no clutch setup. I have another V8 Monza setup ... but decided to try a 7 blade fan without a clutch. It cools the ZZ430 just fine.

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    Shown without the fan ...

    The 32 3W has A/C also. The no clutch fan was a experiment on my part ... but I see no reason to change it. I do run a shroud on both the 32's.

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  9. 5_guy
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    Many thanks on the info.
     
  10. Harrison
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    I have a Zipps riser for sale is anyone needs one.

    Brand new. Never used.

    JH
     
  11. 5_guy
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  12. racemad55
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    nice looking engine
     
  13. ago
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    Dirty old man,

    Put some heavy grease on the tap to contain most of the chips.
    chips in coolant not as bad as chips in oil.


    Ago
     
  14. dirty old man
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    Not at all sure about clearance between tap and plate on back of impeller blades when the tap has to sink in far enough to get proper thread dia. on the tapered tap for pipe taper threads.
    Think I'm gonna look around for one of those screw gripping screwdrivers with the split blade that you expand in the screw slot. With one of those I don't think it'll be a lot more trouble than the GM unit.
    Dave
     
  15. Boones
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    what is the purpose of the clutch fan and does it really help that much... (hardly ever see them on hotrods)
     
  16. sdluck
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    The fan will slip when it is not needed, freeway speeds and when cold. It takes the load off the water pump,allows faster warmups,quieter running and better gas milage
     
  17. harley rider
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    I just bought one on ebay for $ 250.it came from dannys rod shop.
     

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  18. 5_guy
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    Harley Rider, I noticed the bracket that is on there, is that the same bracket that ZIP shows on there sheet as part #715894?
     
  19. harley rider
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    that is a GM # you can get them from chevy dealers. I found this one at O'Reilys. It is close enough, only $10.
     
  20. 5_guy
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    Got it at Reids Hot Rod Parts as I just happen to be buying some other parts and looked over at a display board and there it was $8.95! mounted it over the weekend thanks for the info!
     
  21. rob-redm
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    OK , I pretty sure I need some kind of water pump riser to cool my 35 Ford down when in traffic..be it a Zip or the other make... My question, and maybe I didn't read far enough back . Can this set up be ran with a SBC with generator on it ? I'm running the old 265 v8 chevy exhaust manifoild(283 ci engine in my rig) with generator and bracket located off the exh. manifold. The car runs 180 all day long, but at idle and in traffic the temp starts going up. New radiator, engine is fresh... If someone has done this with a generator let me know... I may need to go back and read more on this tread, read about the bleeder valve and part number and tapping ... Thanks Rob
     
  22. rob-redm
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    btt, for the evening crowd
     
  23. rob-redm
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    Still looking for information regarding using this with a generator. Thank you!
     
  24. dirty old man
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    I have a Zip's riser on my sbc, and a non GM alternator. I had to machine an adaptor block to mount between the alt. bracket on the left side of the riser and the alternator itself, but not a big deal.
    Dave
     
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  25. junk yard kid
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    I have an alternator ran off the driver exhaust and am looking for a generator to replace it. so yes it will work.

    I used a 60 inch belt i believe
     
  26. rob-redm
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    I would like to see a picture if anyone this installed with a generator
     
  27. junk yard kid
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    Heres mine with alternator, i used one of them cheap mr gasket genny mounts.
     

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  28. rob-redm
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    I'm running the stock cast iron 4-barrell intake manifold right now. My generator and mounting bracket is on driver side also. I'm running a hood and side on my 35 Ford 5w coupe... What fan are you running ? and are you using a 235 "6" banger water pump... also read that a bleeder valve needs to be installed also .:D
     
  29. junk yard kid
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    The fan came from speedway. They got them in a bunch of sizes and there cheap and look and feel well built. I think it said there an oem leftover. The water pump i think is for the later motor not a 235. Yep i did the bleeder valve. Youll see why when you get the zip kit. Its just a stupid screw. Nice looking 35 by the way.
     
  30. bjinx
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    I am going to use an early Offenhauser 3x2 manifold from the 60's with three Holley 94's on an early 283 sbc in my Model A sedan. Has anyone used this set-up with a Zipps and if so did you have to modify the oil fill tube on the front of the manifold?
     

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