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Hot Rods Zip's Water pump riser

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by krylon32, Jun 30, 2026.

  1. krylon32
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    Whatever happened to the Zip's water pump riser for a SBC? Did the company get bought out or just disappear? I used several, most did the job except one. Like to try another but?
     
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  2. 19Eddy30
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    Try Vintage air
    A year ago most places where out of stock
     
  3. G_Don
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    Found mine used. Try craigslist and facebook. They can be had anywhere from 150-300 depending how long you wait. I think snow white makes the opal one still but you cant get a opel water pump at the parts store.

    Gordy
     
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  4. SDS
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  5. dirt car
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    I'm only ***uming your future 32 powered 57 sm blk. build is leaning towards a strictly traditional build, however, seems for as many years as your 409-pump conversion has been around it would cl***ify as a traditional component equally as much as the zip conversion......And yes, agree it's all in what a person's preference dictates.
     
  6. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Pete & Jakes is like everybody else they are out of stock.

    I have used the zips on several cars and they raise the water pump up 5" that centers the fan in the middle of the radiator. HRP
     
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  7. HOTRODPRIMER
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    I'm unfamiliar with a 409 water pump being used on a sbc and the reason why, can you explain? HRP
     
  8. dirt car
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    Oh my...My bad... Gary pioneered the flathead/409 conversion years ago & yeah, we're talking sbc here, my inattentive 82 years are wearing heavily on me & I stand corrected. Whenever a mention of Cornhusker Rod & Custom appears I step back in time a few decades when I first met Gary displaying his novel conversion at a local event...no application here however.
     
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  9. HOTRODPRIMER
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    No harm ,no foul, I just know I had never heard of the 409 pump being used on anything other than the flathead and of course the 409. HRP
     
  10. krylon32
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    Sold the first 348/409 to Flathead pump kit in about 93. Sold one yesterday, going out tomorrow. Down to 3 and that'll be the end. I had a Zips pump kit on the 32 highboy pickup we built and it worked perfect. Don't think an electric fan is appropriate on the latest project. Thought I'd start looking early.
     
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  11. Mitchell Rish
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    Didn’t one of the conversions use the 230-292 water pump ? Or am I mis remembering ?
     
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  12. jimmy six
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    Zips
     
  13. Blues4U
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    I recall a thread here on the HAMB where the guy built his own water pump riser. It didn't seem to be that big of a deal. You might be able to find the thread with a search for it.
     
  14. pprather
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  15. pprather
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    I ran a small block with '68 Camaro water pump and mechanical fan, full hood etc on my Model A.
    Never had a problem with heat in 100k miles.
     
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  16. bschwoeble
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    Zip p***ed away a several years ago. I think from COVID. I don't think the family or employee(s) had any interest in keeping it going. I could be wrong. Somebody here might know more.
     
  17. krylon32
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    I'm to old but someone should do a follow up to see if the family would sell the mold and other equipment to bring the riser back. I'm surprised a company like Speedway shan't copied the part. They copy everything else!
     
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  18. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Your right Gary, the riser was a good product and did exactly what it was made to do.

    One of the bigger players in the game of hot rod parts should try and purchase the name & the tooling to manufacture a proven product. HRP
     
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  19. 19Eddy30
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    Did not know Zip past ,he was order by 20 yrs , was Neat cool guy
    He was into up for casting custom parts
     
  20. Karl Wescott
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    If anyone wanted to try to pursue this the last information I had of the manufacturer:
    John Drakulic
    104 7th St
    Trafford PA 15085
    (412) 372-4411

    Also, If anyone was REALLY serious about making them again, I have one on my roadster (and it works very well thank you) it could be reverse engineered and new patterns made on the order of 5000.00 to 10,000.00.
     
  21. krylon32
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    I would tackle it if I wasn't over 80.
     
  22. 1956 F100
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    I picked up a risor for my 1934 Tudor. Does any one have pulley numbers for dual groove pulley for SBC.
     
  23. Russ B
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    [​IMG]

    The Sno-white pump/riser might be a good alternative if zips is out of production. I think they are still going, out of Fresno, California.
     
  24. krylon32
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    I've always used the standard short pump black double groove steel pulleys from Speedway.
     
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  25. patsurf
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    don't think they are around anymore...
     
  26. Johnny Gee
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    IMG_5237.jpeg
     
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  27. krylon32
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    Here's a Zips riser on my highboy deuce pickup.

    DSCN0753.JPG
     
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  28. krylon32
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    Bump for a new picture.
     
  29. bjinx
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    I googled Zips several months ago and no one is selling new ones. Saw used ones only.
     
  30. 19Eddy30
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    A few are going to be poured,
    Will be looking to see what all needs to be altered to possible to supply a few
    From Sun Shine
     
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